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Hi,
I finally decided to close my hobby shop for mining. Wondering if any of you is interested in 20x Bitmain S19K PRO 120TH units? They are about one year old.
Payment in bitcoin on delivery (delivered to you where you can test all/some).
If interested PM me your offer and delivery location (city at least).
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Hi, Just for fun or what other reasons? These old cubes are waay below ROI in 2025. They were pretty bad and unreliable when new. So bad that Bitmain series looked good compared to them  |
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I think 3.2c is not cheap enough. I don't mean this as an insult. Just looking at the risk/reward ratio. 4-5c is doable on larger scale in the US/Canada and usually they hook you up for free (no connection and transformer one time fee). Of course, labor is cheaper in Kazakhstan, but mining is not labor intensive. I advise you to start farm where you rent out Hashrate to smaller miners. In that way you can partially overcome the issues with the location. Hello everyone I've always been interested in mining! I decided to find out about it and try it. I started mining on my PC. The idea came up to open a large farm. I made a small but understandable business plan. I'm Looking For Investors. I made the documents for the project, this document was made in Moscow (very good specialists reviewed my project). This document allows the investor to insure the entire project and be sure that his money will not be lost. The project is worth 4,400,000$. The price for electricity is 0.032$. Everything is legal and official!
The location of the mining farm will be in Kazakhstan.
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Canaan also doesn't work for hot climates as they only specs up to 35C. As you write the reason of death for S19s is heat it could be that Bitmain just wrote a larger number even when it causes issues.
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My experience with Whatsminers (M50 line) is that they just don't recover from curtailment in a timely manner.
As a result I have stayed away since discovering this the hard way. And yes I have tried fast boot etc in their firmware.
Can't comment on the "Pro" side of Canaan miners.
The S19K's flaw seems to pertain to expansion and contraction of the soldering between the chips when there are extreme temp changes.
Additionally the S17 heatsink design flaw fiasco was carried over to many of the S19K models which is utter crap.
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Too bad there are still no good (or any) alternatives. So we keep giving bitmain a fortune for questionable service + product.
I don't have high hopes that it will change soon...
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This is just placeholder for future important news/updates.
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Block's new ASIC chip and soon miners sound much needed considering current ASIC manufacturers business practices. Let's collect news/updates here.
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For us colder weather (not cold, just colder, as we are in TX) actually improved situation. It seems that around 20C they like a lot.
The double whammy: Bitmain repair centers starting to not fixing the boards, but reporting unit as "scrapped".
So Bitmain still sucks a lot.
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It was a virgin S19XP under warranty. I did not tamper with it because of the warranty.
Unfortunately, their warranty states this for years. You send it in and they try to repair. REPAIR, not replace parts. If deemed not repairable it will be scrapped. Pretty bad policy, but they can get away with it as there is still no better offer. After a decade, so I guess we shouldn't hold our breath. |
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I do agree and wrote that ASICJUNGLE is LEGITIMATE and is a good company . They did deliver the machines agreed. Unfortunately I can't change the title, which is a little bit flashy, but still "be careful" is always a good thing. I could edit the original post, so the non-critical issue we complain about will be clear after reading the original post.
I also stated that I was our mistake fixing the minor issues and not knowing/investigating your return policy. If there is any other uncorrected/false claim I made please let me know so I can correct it.
As of the payment (which I assume you think the still standing false claim is):
Your representative specifically asked for an invoice for the repairs we made on-site. Why ask for an invoice if you don't want to pay it? (the amount of this invoice was never questioned)
This is the email from 3/14 from your Alex B. and I quote the one liner:
Could you please send us an invoice with the cost of parts that needed to be replaced.
Thank you,
I believe this is not a refusal to pay for our on-site repair, but quite the opposite.
Cheers,
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Usually used equipment is sold without guarantees after a random standard check or under the contract non-working equipment is exchanged for working one. There are now many inexpensive components for ASIC S19, and apparently you have very cheap electricity since you decided to make such a purchase.
AsicJungle does offer a few days DOA warranty. But you MUST send it back even for minor issues. That is where we went wrong. We sent back those units needing actual repair but fixed those needing just a controller board (for example). |
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We are a North American company with operations in Canada and the US. Nothing to do with China.
Small update:AsicJungle explained that this was a misunderstanding caused by their sales person who told us that they will pay (in writing and asked an invoice from us) for minor repairs we did. Their DOA policy says you must send it back as "trust your" customer doesn't extend as far as replacing a few $90 controller boards... To be fair, they did fix the units we sent in. Problem is that sending in cost almost more than the replacement part with used machines. So now we at least know to not expect the payment, before this thread it was just no answer. |
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Mine are mix of 115T and 120T both are failing slowly under 12m warranty period.
All are the huge one heatsink on the hash board versions.
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Hi Guys,
Just to share our experience if someone plans to buy from asicjungle.com.
They did deliver and overall, they are legit and easy to work with. In our case the problem was that they sold used equipment with warranty (DOA X days). Claim which they didn't fulfill. It is actually somewhat worse as they did work with us and we agreed on a fair amount (with Alex B.) of which they just didn't pay. I mean after several months and many promises that they will.
Thing is, we were only brave enough to buy the used S19s because they did offer this warranty, without it we wouldn't.
So as always: just be careful.
Bye
Gabor
Note: Edited on 10/06 and would like to add:
ASICJUNGLE is LEGIT and they DID deliver the machines. Also fixed the ones we sent back . Our issue is about the repairs we made on-site. As of our understanding they did imply to pay for these, yet they didn't (implied = they asked for an invoice of the parts used).
Doing on-site repair is against their policy. Even when the cost of on-site repair is actually close/less to the UPS fee to send the unit back.
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It really depends. On the version on the subversion on the area you are in (humid and hot or cold), etc.
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It could very well be 44c depending on the plan and place you are. Still it is a horrible price, you will need 1/10 of that to make mining viable.
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Hi Guys,
We are experiencing somewhat high failure rate with S19K PRO machines. Hash boards start to fail (chip lost) after 3-4 months. So far about 6% failure rate in <6 months usage... (warranty repaired, but some failed again)
I mean S19J was not perfect, but K seems to be way worse.
Machines were bought new and in a few different batches (albeit close to each other).
Anyone has actual experience with these units?
Cheers
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It is reliable in the way that it will stay sleep. Even after power going out, coming back, etc.
You can also try alternative firmwares like BRAIINS which have nice features like auto tune and an GRPC API.
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44c/kWh is that a typo? I mean that is horribly expensive even by EU prices.
Doing anything at that rate is pretty much out of the question IMHO.
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