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May 20, 2025, 02:55:46 PM
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But what is the solution if the difficulty reset rule is removed and difficulty remains very high but hashrate drops significantly?
There is none. As other people already said, testnet is defective by design. And I guess developers will keep it that way, because it will encourage people to upgrade, and switch from one buggy testnet to another one, where one problem will be fixed, and another one will be created. Testnets are made to test edge cases, and attacks, which people wouldn't want to test on mainnet, to not accidentally break things.

Some people consider blockstorms as a feature, not a bug. So, if testnet chain will be halted, because of not enough miners, then it may be also considered as a feature, and people can simply switch from one testnet to another. Or: they can test, how coordinated effort works, by trying to unite, and produce the next block. A lot of weak blocks can function for quite long time, and coordinated effort of many parties can lead to making next blocks, moving the chain forward, and lowering the difficulty.

However, that kind of situation is quite unlikely. There are more than enough people, willing to throw their hashrate at testnets, which is why they reached chainworks like 2^70 or 2^75. And when it comes to test networks, people don't want to spend their effort to plan things ahead, but rather they release things on the go, and solve problems, as they appear. Now, there is a problem with CPU-mined blocks, so all of them will be rejected. And if the chain will be stuck, then people will think about that problem, when it will materialize, and not sooner (because many people simply don't care about testnets, and they truly believe, that if coins are worthless, then any fix can be done, including a lot of naughty tricks, which would never be deployed on mainnet).

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May 20, 2025, 09:45:13 PM
Last edit: May 22, 2025, 08:19:49 PM by BayAreaCoins
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But what is the solution if the difficulty reset rule is removed and difficulty remains very high but hashrate drops significantly?

You wait just like everyone else in the Bitcoin/crypto world.

Throw hash at it if it is that important.

I think the thought that people can't wait in Testnet is silly... the number of confirmation required by websites for users using testnet is like 12-24 hours (100 confirmations on my website for example and ~12 hours on Citrea.)

After all this "workaround" is introduced to address a problem. Testnet mining cannot be like mainnet mining because miners don't have an incentive to continue mining testnet. So what if someone floods testnet with their ASICs (a high hashrate) to increase the difficulty and then abandons it after the difficulty adjustment increased the difficulty hence increasing the time between blocks?

Anytime you make a "workaround"... you shouldn't be shocked when it gets worked.

It's getting worked because there mostly because it is fun... Not money related, but a few extra BTC for it is probably rewarding for the smart CPU timer miners.

Unlike what the quoted message above says, the rational for difficulty reset wasn't only to let people mine on their laptops. It was also to prevent the chain from being stuck for very long periods without growing.

The rational was misplaced.  I think that is pretty commonly accepted at this point.



Fully POW is coming to Testnet.  I'm not sure what Saint is talking about above me. lol

I mean, I'm all for defective by design (obviously), but lol hey... *shrugs*

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